Comments for OnceDelivered.net http://oncedelivered.net Helping Christians "earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" (Jude 3). Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:15:26 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Will only a few be saved? by fromthesunrising http://oncedelivered.net/2010/02/17/will-only-a-few-be-saved/#comment-284 fromthesunrising Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:15:26 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=885#comment-284 TRUE CHURCH It is true that to be called God’s people then they must enter to a true church. True church is being discussed in Ephesians 4:5 – one faith, one baptism, one God, one Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus mention also the two roads – the narrow which leads to salvation yet few walks on it and the wide road which leads to destruction and many people finds it – Matthew 7:14 … Revelation 18:4 People are warned to get out from the Great Babylon (the false religions) in order not be part of her plagues. Christian people are required to speak in unison and not in division whether its on acts or sharing words of God – 1 Corinthians 1:10 and people to be real Christian and followers of Jesus Christ need to come to accurate to knowledge of the word of God – 1 Timothy 2:4 ; 2 Timothy 2:25 JEHOVAH AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD What Jehovah said in Isaiah 44:6 is that He is the only God who is above all other gods that is why he is called Almighty God. If there are no gods then he won’t be called Almighty God. For what it would stands for right? It doesn’t mean when Jehovah said he is the only true God and no gods before me means Jesus is a false god. First consider the statement of him He said the “ONLY TRUE GOD” and HE ALSO SAID “BESIDES ME THERE IS NO GOD” Would you think if you would take this literally it will coincides? Of course he won’t be saying as he is the only true God (as it would sounds there are false gods) and yet he is saying “there is no god besides me”. So what he affirm here is that he is alone the REAL GOD and the others are just lower gods and false gods. It should not mean that Jesus is not a false god then he must be the true God. In John 17:3 he said Jehovah is the only true God and he never said he is God but the Son of God. 1 Corinthians 8:5 shows gods in heaven and on earth. Would you say that those gods in heaven and some god’s people are the true Gods? Jehovah said he is the only true God but it doesn’t mean that angels, and other’s God’s people and Jesus are false gods. They are just considered as gods subordinate to the only true God. There is only one way of defining the “the Word was God” and it is in quality not in identity for the last phrase must coincides with the second phrase which is “The Word was with God” and the phrase in verse 2 of John 1 which states “This ONE was in [the] beginning WITH God. Therefore there are two separate persons that are together. And that makes the translators of NWT decide to put it as “a god” and not only “God”. The word “a god” means a quality of being divine or having godlike nature and a being a sort of god from among gods which is true to the identity of Jesus. TRUE CHURCH
It is true that to be called God’s people then they must enter to a true church. True church is being discussed in Ephesians 4:5 – one faith, one baptism, one God, one Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus mention also the two roads – the narrow which leads to salvation yet few walks on it and the wide road which leads to destruction and many people finds it – Matthew 7:14 … Revelation 18:4 People are warned to get out from the Great Babylon (the false religions) in order not be part of her plagues. Christian people are required to speak in unison and not in division whether its on acts or sharing words of God – 1 Corinthians 1:10 and people to be real Christian and followers of Jesus Christ need to come to accurate to knowledge of the word of God – 1 Timothy 2:4 ; 2 Timothy 2:25

JEHOVAH AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD
What Jehovah said in Isaiah 44:6 is that He is the only God who is above all other gods that is why he is called Almighty God. If there are no gods then he won’t be called Almighty God. For what it would stands for right? It doesn’t mean when Jehovah said he is the only true God and no gods before me means Jesus is a false god. First consider the statement of him He said the “ONLY TRUE GOD” and HE ALSO SAID “BESIDES ME THERE IS NO GOD” Would you think if you would take this literally it will coincides? Of course he won’t be saying as he is the only true God (as it would sounds there are false gods) and yet he is saying “there is no god besides me”. So what he affirm here is that he is alone the REAL GOD and the others are just lower gods and false gods. It should not mean that Jesus is not a false god then he must be the true God. In John 17:3 he said Jehovah is the only true God and he never said he is God but the Son of God. 1 Corinthians 8:5 shows gods in heaven and on earth. Would you say that those gods in heaven and some god’s people are the true Gods? Jehovah said he is the only true God but it doesn’t mean that angels, and other’s God’s people and Jesus are false gods. They are just considered as gods subordinate to the only true God.

There is only one way of defining the “the Word was God” and it is in quality not in identity for the last phrase must coincides with the second phrase which is “The Word was with God” and the phrase in verse 2 of John 1 which states “This ONE was in [the] beginning WITH God. Therefore there are two separate persons that are together. And that makes the translators of NWT decide to put it as “a god” and not only “God”. The word “a god” means a quality of being divine or having godlike nature and a being a sort of god from among gods which is true to the identity of Jesus.

]]> Comment on What makes a Christian? by fromthesunrising http://oncedelivered.net/2010/03/15/what-makes-a-christian/#comment-281 fromthesunrising Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:21:57 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=920#comment-281 It is true that to be called God’s people then they must enter to a true church. True church is being discussed in Ephesians 4:5 – one faith, one baptism, one God, one Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus mention also the two roads – the narrow which leads to salvation yet few walks on it and the wide road which leads to destruction and many people finds it – Matthew 7:14 … Revelation 18:4 People are warned to get out from the Great Babylon (the false religions) in order not be part of her plagues. Christian people are required to speak in unison and not in division whether its on acts or sharing words of God – 1 Corinthians 1:10 and people to be real Christian and followers of Jesus Christ need to come to accurate to knowledge of the word of God – 1 Timothy 2:4 ; 2 Timothy 2:25 It is true that to be called God’s people then they must enter to a true church. True church is being discussed in Ephesians 4:5 – one faith, one baptism, one God, one Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus mention also the two roads – the narrow which leads to salvation yet few walks on it and the wide road which leads to destruction and many people finds it – Matthew 7:14 … Revelation 18:4 People are warned to get out from the Great Babylon (the false religions) in order not be part of her plagues. Christian people are required to speak in unison and not in division whether its on acts or sharing words of God – 1 Corinthians 1:10 and people to be real Christian and followers of Jesus Christ need to come to accurate to knowledge of the word of God – 1 Timothy 2:4 ; 2 Timothy 2:25

]]> Comment on How do I know the Bible is True? by rphilli http://oncedelivered.net/2009/03/06/how-do-i-know-the-bible-is-true/#comment-249 rphilli Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:27:42 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=490#comment-249 Sorry David, I was unable to get an email through to your email address. The free downloads are available on the Web site under the topics indicated, however. Thanks again. Sorry David, I was unable to get an email through to your email address. The free downloads are available on the Web site under the topics indicated, however. Thanks again.

]]> Comment on How do I know the Bible is True? by rphilli http://oncedelivered.net/2009/03/06/how-do-i-know-the-bible-is-true/#comment-248 rphilli Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:16:38 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=490#comment-248 Thanks David. Free downloadable studies for both of these topics are available on the Web site. Just click on the drop-down menu under Topics, select "Bible" or "Kingdom of Heaven" and you'll find the posts with the free downloads. Just in case you have trouble finding them, I will email the pdfs to you. Thanks again for your very kind comments. Thanks David. Free downloadable studies for both of these topics are available on the Web site. Just click on the drop-down menu under Topics, select “Bible” or “Kingdom of Heaven” and you’ll find the posts with the free downloads. Just in case you have trouble finding them, I will email the pdfs to you. Thanks again for your very kind comments.

]]> Comment on How do I know the Bible is True? by David E. Jones http://oncedelivered.net/2009/03/06/how-do-i-know-the-bible-is-true/#comment-247 David E. Jones Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:54:00 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=490#comment-247 Would appreciate copies of this study on how to know the Bible is true and those on the Kingdom for use in BS group situation. Thank you for what you do to help people to understand the scriptures and grow in Christ. Would appreciate copies of this study on how to know the Bible is true and those on the Kingdom for use in BS group situation. Thank you for what you do to help people to understand the scriptures and grow in Christ.

]]> Comment on Comparing Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nicholas Voss http://oncedelivered.net/2009/11/01/comparing-mormons-and-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-245 Nicholas Voss Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:23:37 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=771#comment-245 If Mr. Russell did not found the Jehovah's Witness organization who did? Where have the Jehovah's Witnesses been for nearly nineteen hundred years? Name a few spokesmen of the JW faith who existed before 1870? And where in the chronicles of Christian history have any Watchtower-type writings existed which agree with JWitnesses? The teachings are unique and were invented starting in about the late 1900s in America. Has God been without a Witness for nineteen hundred years? If Mr. Russell did not found the Jehovah’s Witness organization who did? Where have the Jehovah’s Witnesses been for nearly nineteen hundred years? Name a few spokesmen of the JW faith who existed before 1870?

And where in the chronicles of Christian history have any Watchtower-type writings existed which agree with JWitnesses? The teachings are unique and were invented starting in about the late 1900s in America.

Has God been without a Witness for nineteen hundred years?

]]> Comment on Comparing Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses by ResLight http://oncedelivered.net/2009/11/01/comparing-mormons-and-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-238 ResLight Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:41:20 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=771#comment-238 Charles Taze Russell was not the founder of the "Jehovah's Witnesses" organization. He was a non-sectarian who did not believe in such an organization. Charles Taze Russell taught and believed in the one true Church as founded by Jesus, and that the one true Church consisted of people in an out of probably all of the Christian denominations. He taught nothing about an organization (such the "Jehovah's Winesses") as being the one true church. Charles Taze Russell believed and taught the one sacrifice of Jesus fully, completely and totally paid the price for Adam's sin, and nothing at all is needed to be added to that salvation. Charles Taze Russell did not deny the scriptural deity of Jesus; he did deny that Jesus has deity as interpreted by trinitarians. Russell taught that every man, woman, child, embryo, infant, and insane person who is now dying in Adam is also saved by the blood of Jesus. The JWs deny this. Charles Taze Russell relied on the Word of God -- not reason itself -- as the foundation upon which all faith should be built. Of course, reason is included in understanding the scriptures, but it is not the basis of reliance. The scriptures reveal that Jesus was begotten (brought forth into existence) as the firstborn living creature. Being a creature, he was indeed created. Russell did indeed teach the Bible truth on that topic. II do not know of any place that Russell taught that God's holy spirit is impersonal; he did teach that God's holy spirit is personal to God to whom the holy spirit belongs, as personal as we would consider as our mouth or finger, since the Bible likens God's holy spirit to God's finger and mouth. Since the trinity is no where to be found in any of the Bible, and since the trinity dogma ends up denying the basis for which Jesus came in the flesh, Russell was correct in denying what is not only not found in the scripture, but which by its teaching effectually denies the ransom sacrifice of Jesus! Russell believe that Jesus died on the cross and thereby provided a ransom for all who are dying in Adam. I know that Russell did not teach that Jesus was not resurrected from death, he did teach that death is death -- the cessation of living -- as is described in the Bible. One has to be be dead -- ceased to have been living/sentient -- in order to be resurrected from death. If Jesus did not cease to be living, then he was not actually dead, and his resurrection was a farce, and no price was paid as the wages of sin. Nor did Jesus die a "spiritual death" -- the acclaimed eternal separation from God -- our sins. Jesus is not now paying a price of being eternally separated from his God for our sins., he died physically at Calvary for our sins. After ascending he offered up his human flesh, his human body, once for all time, for sin, to his God in heaven. Having thus offered up his humanity, he will never be a human being again. Charles Taze Russell was not the founder of the “Jehovah’s Witnesses” organization. He was a non-sectarian who did not believe in such an organization.

Charles Taze Russell taught and believed in the one true Church as founded by Jesus, and that the one true Church consisted of people in an out of probably all of the Christian denominations. He taught nothing about an organization (such the “Jehovah’s Winesses”) as being the one true church.

Charles Taze Russell believed and taught the one sacrifice of Jesus fully, completely and totally paid the price for Adam’s sin, and nothing at all is needed to be added to that salvation.

Charles Taze Russell did not deny the scriptural deity of Jesus; he did deny that Jesus has deity as interpreted by trinitarians.

Russell taught that every man, woman, child, embryo, infant, and insane person who is now dying in Adam is also saved by the blood of Jesus. The JWs deny this.

Charles Taze Russell relied on the Word of God — not reason itself — as the foundation upon which all faith should be built. Of course, reason is included in understanding the scriptures, but it is not the basis of reliance.

The scriptures reveal that Jesus was begotten (brought forth into existence) as the firstborn living creature. Being a creature, he was indeed created. Russell did indeed teach the Bible truth on that topic.

II do not know of any place that Russell taught that God’s holy spirit is impersonal; he did teach that God’s holy spirit is personal to God to whom the holy spirit belongs, as personal as we would consider as our mouth or finger, since the Bible likens God’s holy spirit to God’s finger and mouth.

Since the trinity is no where to be found in any of the Bible, and since the trinity dogma ends up denying the basis for which Jesus came in the flesh, Russell was correct in denying what is not only not found in the scripture, but which by its teaching effectually denies the ransom sacrifice of Jesus!

Russell believe that Jesus died on the cross and thereby provided a ransom for all who are dying in Adam.

I know that Russell did not teach that Jesus was not resurrected from death, he did teach that death is death — the cessation of living — as is described in the Bible. One has to be be dead — ceased to have been living/sentient — in order to be resurrected from death. If Jesus did not cease to be living, then he was not actually dead, and his resurrection was a farce, and no price was paid as the wages of sin. Nor did Jesus die a “spiritual death” — the acclaimed eternal separation from God — our sins. Jesus is not now paying a price of being eternally separated from his God for our sins., he died physically at Calvary for our sins. After ascending he offered up his human flesh, his human body, once for all time, for sin, to his God in heaven. Having thus offered up his humanity, he will never be a human being again.

]]> Comment on Questions for Our Mormon and Jehovah’s Witness Friends by rphilli http://oncedelivered.net/2009/11/04/questions-for-our-mormon-and-jehovahs-witness-friends/#comment-235 rphilli Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:24:46 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=777#comment-235 Eric, thanks so much for taking the time to write. You should know that my intention is to accurately depict Mormon views for the purpose of comparing and contrasting them with those of historic Christianity, and I believe I have done so by relying on LDS sources such as The Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, Pearl of Great Price and the writings of LDS "prophets, seers and revelators." As you suggest, Mormon.org is a good site for learning about LDS teachings, and I've often gone there. The problem is that the site's statements of belief are overly simplified and vague to the point where it seems the LDS Church is trying to make itself look like just another Christian denomination, exactly the opposite of what Joseph Smith taught. The bottom line to me is this: Does the LDS Church today teach that Mormonism and orthodox Christianity are compatible? If so, then Joseph Smith is a false prophet and the LDS Church is unnecessary. If not, then Mormon.org and other LDS public relations efforts should be honest enough to say so. My fear is that many Mormons do not know what the LDS church teaches, especially about the Person and work of Christ, salvation, and the nature and destiny of man. The writings of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and other LDS leaders are many, varied, and in some cases contradictory -- and always subject to change due to "new revelation." I highly recommend the Bible, God's complete and final written revelation which, like God Himself, is not subject to change. Eric, thanks so much for taking the time to write. You should know that my intention is to accurately depict Mormon views for the purpose of comparing and contrasting them with those of historic Christianity, and I believe I have done so by relying on LDS sources such as The Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, Pearl of Great Price and the writings of LDS “prophets, seers and revelators.” As you suggest, Mormon.org is a good site for learning about LDS teachings, and I’ve often gone there. The problem is that the site’s statements of belief are overly simplified and vague to the point where it seems the LDS Church is trying to make itself look like just another Christian denomination, exactly the opposite of what Joseph Smith taught. The bottom line to me is this: Does the LDS Church today teach that Mormonism and orthodox Christianity are compatible? If so, then Joseph Smith is a false prophet and the LDS Church is unnecessary. If not, then Mormon.org and other LDS public relations efforts should be honest enough to say so. My fear is that many Mormons do not know what the LDS church teaches, especially about the Person and work of Christ, salvation, and the nature and destiny of man. The writings of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and other LDS leaders are many, varied, and in some cases contradictory — and always subject to change due to “new revelation.” I highly recommend the Bible, God’s complete and final written revelation which, like God Himself, is not subject to change.

]]> Comment on Questions for Our Mormon and Jehovah’s Witness Friends by Eric Nielson http://oncedelivered.net/2009/11/04/questions-for-our-mormon-and-jehovahs-witness-friends/#comment-234 Eric Nielson Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:42:26 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=777#comment-234 As a Mormon, I will say that many of your explanations here about Mormons are fairly good. Others are pretty bad, and seem intentionally so. For some better information on Mormon beliefs check out Mormon.org. As a Mormon, I will say that many of your explanations here about Mormons are fairly good. Others are pretty bad, and seem intentionally so.

For some better information on Mormon beliefs check out Mormon.org.

]]> Comment on Seven Reasons to Trust the Scriptures by rphilli http://oncedelivered.net/2009/08/23/seven-reasons-to-trust-the-scriptures/#comment-224 rphilli Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:44:50 +0000 http://oncedelivered.net/?p=681#comment-224 David, thanks so much for your note. This is not my area of expertise, but from what I have read about the flood from Scripture and from apologists who focus on this subject, I believe all of the land- and sky-dwelling animals did die in the flood, except for those on the ark. The sea-dwelling creatures no doubt were not on the ark and did not need protection from the waters. You might want to check out some other apologetics sites and see if they can provide a more complete answer -- www.4truth.net, www.carm.org, etc. Again, thanks so much for your note. Blessings. David, thanks so much for your note. This is not my area of expertise, but from what I have read about the flood from Scripture and from apologists who focus on this subject, I believe all of the land- and sky-dwelling animals did die in the flood, except for those on the ark. The sea-dwelling creatures no doubt were not on the ark and did not need protection from the waters. You might want to check out some other apologetics sites and see if they can provide a more complete answer — http://www.4truth.net, http://www.carm.org, etc. Again, thanks so much for your note. Blessings.

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